Q: The other aspect you touched on was the elections in November – Presidential, House and Senate. Presumably, if Obama is reelected, not a lot would change, but if Romney is elected he has been campaigning that he would offer states a waiver out of the health reform law on day one, and repeal thereafter.
A: Well, I think it’s one of those things that sounds like it’s easy to wave a magic pen at. The reality of it is that Medicaid, the state program, is so integrally interlinked with health reform that I don’t know if that’s even really an option. The Medicaid system is half funded by the federal government, so if a state decides it’s going its own way, it would have to come up with the other half. And I don’t think many – if any – states could realistically do that. There are parts of it like the health insurance exchange that some states have decided not to implement. Frankly, I think in the long run they’re short-changing their own citizens, but that’s their choice.

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Q: The argument against a health insurance exchange, of course, tends to be more about federal overreach than whether standing up an HIX is best for citizens.
A: I think there are a lot of people out there with really simplistic answers to a phenomenally complex situation. And they don’t even know what they don’t know, which is dangerous, so you just hope at some point cooler heads prevail. I often hear really insane things coming out of people’s mouths and they have constituency groups behind them. So I guess crazy things could happen.

Q: And the Obama administration has done a poor job of explaining the benefits of health reform to the American public in a way that anyone not directly involved with healthcare can possibly understand.
A: Those of us who are directly involved don’t fully understand! [chuckling] And Nancy Pelosi admitted that they figured, "Let’s just get this bill passed, and then we’ll have time to read it." It’s nearly 3,000 pages of gobbledygook and every month we’ll get something from somebody about a new thing they found buried in the bill that is either good or bad for us. But I think that Congress and the President at the time decided they had a limited window of opportunity and they were just going to cram something through and then fix it later. That’s kind of where we are and I don’t think they expected the incredible opposition to come up from the other side of the aisle. And I don’t think they anticipated the Tea Party going off on the, "We just don’t want the federal government poking in our lives" routine. And the individual mandate, there’s a lot to that – should the federal government be able to tell you what you must buy? I can see points on both sides of that issue.

Q: Which makes it particularly interesting that states such as California and Vermont have proposed the move toward a statewide single-payer system, while others are so opposed.
A: I really think that the insurance exchange is a back door to single-payer. What I see happening over time, the way health reform is planned now, is the penalty payment for employers not offering health insurance is much lower than the cost of offering insurance. So I’m not surprised that small and mid-size companies are openly talking about just paying the penalty and not offering insurance. What’s really surprising is every now and then we hear from really large employers that are thinking the same thing. So, if a significant number of employers just decide to pay the fine, and that fine goes to funding the exchanges, pretty soon the only insurer left in the state will be the exchange. And we will have gone through the back door to a single-payer system.

Q: Much to many people’s chagrin, I suppose?
A: My only chagrin about it – it may very well be the right thing to do – but I don’t like it when policy is implemented in the middle of the night, or on a sneak attack. That’s something that should be up-front.
 

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